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Idiomatic Doublets Doubles Troubles I'll have an assonant hendiadys to go, please -- and hold the mayo... Category 5 Turkish Doublets -- Arising from numbers Related Pages: The Turkish Idioms A-Z, Index Turkish Acronyms/Abbreviations Idioms Origin Stories, Index Idioms Illustrated by Cartoons #1 Doubles Troubles Links Introduction Ass on henry's what?! Lewis's doublet categories Category 1 -- both meaningful words Category 2 -- one meaningful word Category 3 -- both meaningless words ikilemeler Category 4 -- according to word order Category 5 -- arising from numbers Category 6 -- arising from repeated words Category 7 -- according to syllable harmony Category 8 -- according to vowel harmony Category 9 -- according to 'b' and 'p' Category 10 -- m-doublets m-doublet surprise! Category 5 -- ikilemeler arising in numbers Hengirmen points out that ordinary numbers are sometimes used in pairs in Turkish -- to serve as ikilemeler. So, depending on the context of the sentence, these 'numerical ikilemeler' can have a different meaning than what appears on their numerical 'surfaces'. In those cases, as might be expected, the words indicating smaller numbers (quantitatively speaking) come before words indicating larger ones. So, numerical ikilemeler arent 'bound' by any of the previously stated word-order 'rules'... The numerical ikilemeler Literal Meaning Plain English Meaning Example usage and English translation beş on five ten some, few in number Manzara hakikaten güzel ve dokunaklıydı, beş on dakika bir sanat eseri gibi seyrettim. (A.H. Tanpınar) The scene was really beautiful and moving, I viewed it like a work of art for a few minutes. bir iki one two a very few, an imperceptible number or amount Kitapları, bir iki bavulu, o kadar... (N.F. Kısakürek) Books, a very few pieces of luggage, that's all... üç aşağı beş yukarı (also, beş aşağı beş yukarı) three down five up (five down five up) about, a small difference, after some bargaining, approximately Üç aşağı beş yukarı anlaştik sayılır. (S.F. Abasıyanık) After some bargaining, we agreed. üç beş three five a few, a rather small number or portion Ben Heybeliden vazgeçerim şimdilik, ancak, üç beş gün için pek hoş olur Remlede kalmak. (M.A. Ersoy) For now I'll abandon Heybeli (famous island near Istanbul), but it will be quite pleasant to spend a few days in Remle. üçe beşe (bakmamak) (not to look) to three to five not to be fussy in a bargain Lütfen, benim satış fiatlarındaki üçe beşe bakmayın. Yoksa terk edeceğim. Please don't be fussy about my selling price. Otherwise, I'm leaving. üçer beşer three at a time five at a time in small groups; small in number, in small portion Her iki odadan üçer beşer kişi lakırdıyı uzattılar. (M. Ş. Esendal) From both rooms people in small groups offered up a bunch of empty comments. Related Pages: The Turkish Idioms A-Z, Index Turkish Acronyms/Abbreviations Idioms Origin Stories, Index Idioms Illustrated by Cartoons #1 Unrelated fun: Frequently asked questions about Turkey and the Turkish language llustrated Nargile Users Guide -- and Encyclopedia Our Honda Generator -- A Member of the Family Tarkan's Metamorphosis Album -- Christmas Day Release Turkish Music -- Tarkan Real-Life Weight Loss a la turc (with booklet) Habibullah and the Great Cannon Caper A simple Turkish 'thing'... Turkish Music -- Kayahan Turkish Belly Dancers Turkish Food and Beverage Turkish Terms Of Endearment Turkish Personal Names Politically Incorrect Turkish Humor Why Off-Color Turkish is important too Gossipy Turkish Who's Who Turkish Movies -- Conventional and 'Erotik', Index To Category 6 Turkish Doublets -- Arising from repeated words

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